NO REALLY I DO, I MEAN A ROGUE JUMPS ME AND ITS LIKE HAMMER OF GG CRITS ALL OVER CHEAT DEATH HAMMER OF WRATH BOOM I WIN.
Why does every 1300 rated oathkeeper scrub ret paladin think he's beating rogues by virtue of his amazing pvp skillz? A rogue with all his cooldowns WILL BEAT a ret paladin 1v1. Make no mistake about it. A rogue has total control in that fight and you will oom and die, assuming equal gear and proper play.
Classic Ret vs Rogue pvp :
Cheapshot
Kidney->You Trinket
Evasion->You HoJ->They trinket
You repent, try to get some heals off with 5x wound on you. (Reversing this order is equally fruitless, a smart rogue will not trinket repentance).
You judge the rogue with whatever you want to try to keep him in combat(usually justice).
If JoJ,CloS->Sprint, or just Gouge re-stealth, wait as long as possible before...
Sap->Bandage->Restealth. (Drinking is pointless. Once you sit, SHS->Sap).
Cheapshot -> You have to divine shield here, or you eat Cheap->Kidney->Gouge Restealth.
Sprint/CloS(depending on delay)->Vanish. Nothing you can do about this as a paladin. There is a slight chance you can JoJ/HoJ the rogue but its unlikely they'll still be in 10 yards after your Divine Shield global.
Sap/+Cheapshot->5PT Rupture->Mash Hemo->You Lose. Somewhere in there you'll get your second HoJ, depending on spec. However you wont actually deal enough damage to kill a rogue in the 6 seconds. The rogue also can still blind you, but it is typically unnecessary.
Tips for beating bad rogues :
JoJ works through CloS, like all other debuffing judgements. Unresistable. CloS does REMOVE it, though.
Sword and Board through evasion, your overall damage is reduced by an average of 70% against a rogue with evasion up.
Healing resets your swing timer. When you Divine Shield try to get your last swing in and then start healing.
Your only real hope is he screws up his restealth chain, you land a HoJ, and do a ton of damage(LOLRNG). Then you live till your forbearance wears off, and you do bop+bandage before wound stacks too high on a re-open from restealth. Repent is up and you use it to keep him from restealthing on your BoP, then try to finish him off toe to toe.
This post isnt to say paladins cannot beat rogues. They simply cant beat a competent rogue with cooldowns ready that has equivalent gear. Note dwarves have a slight advantage in this matchup, but it typically isnt enough. For most rogues, it simply means they need to restealth one more time.
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So it took you a 5-page essay to say: "A paladin can never beat a rouge." Grats, go ahead and replace the post with my one-liner; I won't charge you anything.
This is no surprise anyway:
1) No one can beat a rouge 1v1.
2) This game isn't balanced around doolz (although I'm not sure what it's balanced around, other than warlocks).
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